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    Idiot Proof DMX

    I recently turned to the Dark Side and went all DMX for my lighting.
    I was always a "Non DMX / Sound Active" kind of guy...
    because I prefer to focus my brain on running the music.
    (and I really HAVE to, considering my limited attention span)

    I have the Obey 40 controller, because it's pretty basic but not TOO basic...
    but I was considering going to a computer software program.

    So I am looking for suggestions.
    Before you reply... these are my demands.

    A great price. I would rather stick with what I have than spend a huge amount of money.
    A VERY simple program. I have very basic lighting with NO moving heads. (and the attention span issue, too)
    I would prefer a program than can run on a small tablet. (Android, NOT Apple)

    The first one I looked at was MyDMX Buddy from ADJ.
    $99 is a good starting point, but even THAT software seemed a bit much for me.

    I'd just like to have my lighting effect choices on the screen, and I tap the one I want.

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    The problem with controlling your own light is the learning curve , I use Chamsys , Great program and soooo easy to use ,, well now it is but learning it was a bitch . Anything that you have that you control you will have to know how to set up . Understanding dmx channels , patching is a biggie , then the controls . Even something as simple as a chase pattern you have to understand the dmx channels of the lights then have an understanding of speed , colors , patterns . Just to make them look cool . So a biggie is what type of lights , If they are just spin and puke lights you are better off to let them do their own thing , Pars are different because you want them to look like it is a light show set up for that song . Light can be very fun to play with but also can take up a lot of time to learn

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    This light show was done with a chauvet controller with tap sync and a fade control . I just set the patterns and then re adjusted the speed with the tap and fade controls .,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1sOgbML9vM

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    Not so sure about idiot proof but it is free and works perfectly with no limitations on future growth https://www.freestylersupport.com/fsforum/index.php https://www.dmxprosales.com/DMXking-...g-dmxmicro.htm
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    Someone should write a book: DMX for Dummies.

    As the crowd rushes to hide their DJ for Dummies book with all of the pages worn out.
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    Someone did ... Larry Williams (aka Tyrone Blue) ... https://www.amazon.com/Understanding.../dp/B007AUECJI

    Larry was/is a DJ and was on some of these boards

    Also, Elation made a primer ... http://www.jshaa.com/pdf/dmx-101-handbook.pdf
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    I don't know about idiot proof. The lights are gonna do what the programmer tells them to do. It gets frustrating when something isn't working right and it's great when everything is working right. I've been using Freestyler which is a great, free program, but I've had a few glitches here and there. They have a forum that helped a lot when I've encountered problems.
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    I heard the ADJ WiFly NE1 was easy. Picked one for the ADJ inno pocket spot and stinger. Have not tried it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by partyman View Post
    Not so sure about idiot proof but it is free and works perfectly with no limitations on future growth https://www.freestylersupport.com/fsforum/index.php https://www.dmxprosales.com/DMXking-...g-dmxmicro.htm
    This does seem rather simple.
    Can you buy ANY dongle, or do you need to buy a specific one for Freestyler?


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    Thanks to everyone for the replies.
    Looks as if I'll have to do this the old fashioned way


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    So...with Freestyler...
    what are the choices for a dongle?
    Can you go cheap and still get the job done?
    I've found ones online for $25 or so...

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    Get an Enttec Pro, stable, internal clocking, well known device.

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    Get this dongle and never have to worry again https://www.dmxprosales.com/DMXking-...g-dmxmicro.htm
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    If idiot proof is what you need, I know of someone you could sent it too to verify that criteria...he posts in this very forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausumm View Post
    I recently turned to the Dark Side and went all DMX for my lighting.
    I was always a "Non DMX / Sound Active" kind of guy...
    because I prefer to focus my brain on running the music.
    (and I really HAVE to, considering my limited attention span)

    I have the Obey 40 controller, because it's pretty basic but not TOO basic...
    but I was considering going to a computer software program.

    So I am looking for suggestions.
    Before you reply... these are my demands.

    A great price. I would rather stick with what I have than spend a huge amount of money.
    A VERY simple program. I have very basic lighting with NO moving heads. (and the attention span issue, too)
    I would prefer a program than can run on a small tablet. (Android, NOT Apple)

    The first one I looked at was MyDMX Buddy from ADJ.
    $99 is a good starting point, but even THAT software seemed a bit much for me.

    I'd just like to have my lighting effect choices on the screen, and I tap the one I want.
    It sounds like what you need is a programmer not a software. Do you want simple or do you want an advanced education in DMX protocols and programming?

    If you know what it is you want your lights to do - then you'll be better off letting someone else program the DMX sequences and off-load them to a stand alone trigger box. It doesn't get any more idiot proof than that. You push a button and the lights do what you want when you want - and you still get to focus entirely on your music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausumm View Post
    So...with Freestyler...
    what are the choices for a dongle?
    Can you go cheap and still get the job done?
    I've found ones online for $25 or so...
    I use a Velleman. Check here for more.

    https://www.freestylersupport.com/fs...1f97995466660a
    Bob DeYoung

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    Check out the new Light Rider app. It makes controlling parcan type lights, bar lights and even movers a total breeze! Oh and it works with both Android and Apple.

    https://www.lightriderapp.com/

    Great demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfDI2eRAcsw&t=229s

    Bar light demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHg6gr2xOHc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proformance View Post
    It sounds like what you need is a programmer not a software. Do you want simple or do you want an advanced education in DMX protocols and programming?

    If you know what it is you want your lights to do - then you'll be better off letting someone else program the DMX sequences and off-load them to a stand alone trigger box. It doesn't get any more idiot proof than that. You push a button and the lights do what you want when you want - and you still get to focus entirely on your music.
    I don't mind a little help
    but I don't want someone to do it for me.
    I want to learn how, so I can troubleshoot or re-program in a pinch.
    But I do not need an advanced course...
    as I am looking for simple chases and effects...in different combinations...for four basic fixtures. (no moving heads/scanners)

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    Remember, the first rule in making something idiot proof .. is getting rid of the idiot ...
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