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    An open letter to DJA (Disc Jockey America)

    An open letter to DJA (Disc Jockey America)

    This will be a little hard to word, due to the rules regarding copyright on both these sites, the point of posting it here, it will not get deleted as fast.

    It is granted this industry needs to evolve and grow and get out of the current flux it is in.
    My first question, how does creating an elitist (members only site) benefit the industry?

    I know that you wish to create a Worth site and work on the standards of the industry, and raise all to a new level. But who gets to decide who is Worthy to get this information? And what happens after the fact if someone is not in sync with your ideologies? Will they too fall victim, to the ďdonít let the door hit you on the ass on the way out policyĒ?

    You wish to end all the online bickering and just have a working club. So does this also mean, that if your members who will be of the upper crust, refrain from posting at other sites? If your members are to refrain from healthy, debate at your site, why should they be permitted to race around the net, stir trouble at other sites, then run back to the safety of DJA?

    Next I have a problem, with the fact that ADJA is a sponsor of DJA, how can any association support the limited, controlled Membership of any site, other than their own? Does this mean ADJA, will become an elitist group also, picking and choosing who will be members? If you donít like what we are doing, go join someone else, will be the new motto?

    Well to each their own, I guess. I offer these solutions to DJA, if this is their true intention. Create a password-controlled entrance for members! Why, well you want members only, so if you want to limit the debate and trashing of DJA, then set it up were you have to be a TRUE member, and only TRUE members can see. Some association sites are set up this way, as is some wedding sites. Drop all false advertising. What am I talking about, as a closed site, you are not truly working for the development of this industry, you are doing it for the SELECTED few. So any claims that you are here for the Disc Jockeys of America, are false and misleading. Change the site to itís Proper name. The Mark Ferrell Worthsite. This is what it will be. These steps will eliminate the thought of DJA being a dj site, and change it to a Worthsite.

    Those who still want to network have sites like DJChat, *****, even our association boards, which are open for all to see!

    Years ago I envisioned online networking for djís, an open forum to debate and talk and share tips. Over the years there has been air heads on the boards, over the years, those who talked big and walked small. But 99% can say they have learned something from open boards.

    Today is a sad day in the development of this industry. Some have said I should act more like a leader in this industry, well today I make this stance, and my first move is this post, my second is to proclaim, if DJA does become a closed site, and still advertises itself as Disc Jockey America, to pull any support of the AODJA/CODJA of its site or itís partners. Yes that means I will no longer post there!

    My members can decide if they would like to, see I run an open policy, their hands will not be slapped.

    ďLove Live Open Boards for DJísĒ They will lead the true development of this industry, and AODJA/CODJA will be there to support!

    Glenn Miller

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    Those that have seen my posts in the past probably know that it is not very often that I get involved in politics Ė I donít feel I have enough knowledge of the industry yet to be able to form a true opinion.

    But, one thing I do know is that DJ Chat seems to be a site without a hidden agenda. I have browsed other boards only to get the feeling that something wasnít just kosher.

    It is difficult to imagine that someone (one or group) invests time and money in something just for the fun of it unless they have so much of both that wasting it is a form of playing or entertainment. I believe that DJ Chat is the closest to a truly open forum that one can find today. I hope that my belief that Sid is not looking for the big bucks out of this doesnít prove to be incorrect.

    An open forum, such as DJ Chat is intended to be I think, will cause fiction and create animosities occasionally Ė that is to be expected when everyone is able to give their input and opinions. But I would rather see that happen than have the feeling that Iím not seeing a posterís true thoughts. That some people have difficulty expressing themselves is sometimes the only reason for misunderstands.

    If everyone truly wanting to better the DJ industry, there would be but one huge site.

    I posted the following quote before, and repeat it here:

    ďThe struggle of mankind is the convincing of others that your version is whatís real.Ē
    (Saul Bellow in Augie March)

    Thank you for the ability to air my opinion. I do not want to distract from Glennís post but offer my support.
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    Glenn,

    Well said. Politics are a part of this business, I'm afraid. In my humble opinion it's not really necessary to play politics among professionals but it happens anyhow. Tony Valentine said much the same thing recently and I'm in agreement with that.

    The thing that bothers me most is there's a curtain being drawn down the middle. People don't know what's going on on the other side of that curtain. And that's just plain wrong.

    I just deal with it and move on.
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    Thumbs up

    I tip my black hat to the man from Canada. Well Said Glenn! There are those of us in this industry that do know who the real leaders are.
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    Glenn, Glenn, Glenn,

    That is about the biggest bunch of WHO Hah I have ever read! Next time please try getting your FACTS straight first.

    For those that care here are the facts.

    1.) You have to register to read & Post. (Big Deal huh?)
    2.) You have to provide REAL honest information. (another killer)
    3.) You have to agree to the policies of the site. (Oh Oh)
    4.) Your handle can ALWAYS be that, a Handle. (Lions & tigers & bears oh my!)

    DJA members are free to post ANYWHERE they choose. For you to imply otherwise is beneath you. The real facts are that many of the members there don't care to post elsewhere. They have a life. They do not spend hours a day online. They are not interested in all the petty banter & negative, disparaging remarks made elsewhere. They have posted elsewhere & found the reception to be so negative that they CHOOSE to withdraw, Why does that bother YOU?

    The Site is for all Disc Jockeys that desire to belong & will follow the policies & guidelines. No different than right here at DJCHAT. Don't follow the rules, OUT you go.

    As for the ADJA sponsoring DJA, Again get your information straight. I was there when their forum was added to the site. It was done for FREE by David & The staff as sign of support to them for what they were doing for the industry. IF the ADJA chooses to buy advertising they are free to do so, They are FREE to pick where they advertise.

    Your whole banter on this is silly! That is like saying that since Mobile Beat or DJ Times don't GIVE their magazine away to everyone, that they require people to subscribe, that no association should have an ad there. They are discriminating! How ridiculous.

    I hope that the ADJA does become more selective in it's memebership, If belonging to it is supposed to have some marketing value, then it must have standards. Should it allow Bait & Switch operators to belong? Should it allow those that are continual NO Shows to belong? Would these be the types you would want in your group? would you want your logo branded all over their marketing materials? making an identity in client's minds that these are typical ADJA memebers?

    Selectivity is a natural part of growth & development of a professional organization. You cannot just join SAG, you have to be invited. You have to agree to it's policies, you have to pay to belong. Are they of NO value to actors?

    At DJA the only differences now from what it was before are requiring people to be identified to the management of the site, that someone cannot come online there as 10 different people, stir trouble, bash people & products & then run back HERE to their safety net at DJCHAT or elsewhere. That lurkers go away. That members that sign up but NEVER visit, or respond to an email inquiry are deleted after a period of time. There is NOTHING wrong with requiring people to sign up. NOTHING.

    You can have 10K members but if only 50 or so actually ever post, what good is it to have 10K members? You of all people should know how FEW people EVEN here at DJCHAT actually post or contribute. 80% of the posts here are by less than a hundred people.

    I will still be Dr Drax, As others will maintain their handle & anynonimity publicly, same as always, but they will be known by their real identity to the site management, & They will only have ONE identity. What is the problem with that?
    The only complaints have come from those that WANT to be 10 different people so that they can just be combative, start fights & arguments without recourse. I have been saying it for a very long time. Debate & disagreement can be held WITHOUT the negative, assaultive, personally derogatory styles exhibited by some. We are CHOOSING to not have those negative influences at DJA.

    I have had several MAJOR differences on some issues with Randy Bartlett, yet we still talk, converse & continue to discuss issues, & yet we still respect each other. That is the manner that true professionals differ.

    What leadership do you think or perceive that you have? That threatening to not post at DJA will some how turn the tide of thousands? Neither of us are that important.

    Both of us could drop off the face of the earth, & aside from personal friends missing us, NOBODY else will give a darn.

    Life is about choices. Why does everything have to be or fit everybody? It doesn't. There are 40K DJ's that Don't bother with DJCHAT or ANY online site at all for that matter! Are they somehow not important? To think that ANY of these internet sites are that critical to life is silly.

    I respect you, & your right to see it differently, I just think you are MAKING a bigger issue out of this than is really there. WHY?

    PS. Gary, that is a disapointing comment, what value does it serve? Are you seeking to make a fight where NONE exists? It serves no point. Are you still buying into the "Unholy Traid" arguement? I hope not. I hope I know you better than that.
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    History lesson

    When Mobile Beat first came out it was intended to be free.
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    Dr. Drax:

    I have visited the site in question numerous times. Yes, I sat back and would be considered a lurker by many. I chose not to contribute my thoughts until I felt comfortable around everyone.

    Unfortunately, I never felt that comfort. As a result, I have decided to exercise my right to not join that dj website. As you indicated in your post, life goes on. I doubt very seriously anyone will ever miss me.

    I will continue to share my thoughts at this and others sites I feel comfortable with.

    Cheers,

    Joe

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    Joe,

    I am sorry that you have felt that way. I also respect your right to CHOOSE. I CHOSE to NOT POST or even read here for quite sometime, because I too also did not feel comfortable or welcome here, to be honest, I STILL don't feel all that comfortable. My deciding to join here was in an effort to see if the negativity could end between some people. My life doesn't rise or fall on a belonging to any chat board.

    Everyone can make a choice how they feel & where they want to network. I have always valued your friendship & opinions.

    Until we chat on Sunday...
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    Glenn, why even care about DJ America? is there anything to gain by going over there (or the reverse, them to here)? I say; let 'em have their site and we'll have ours, why make it an issue?

    We finally did away with worthless worth topics that went nowhere, do we really want to bring them back?

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    Thank God for air conditioning.

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    Drax,
    We have had an open door policy at DJzone for a long time. Yes some people that have more than one profile either by accident or because they purposely set it up that way. For some reason we don't have a 10th of the problems you claim to be experiencing at DJA with bad posts and slamming. When you heavily fertilize a garden the weeds are going to grow right along side of the veggies. Could it be the fact that the maturity level at DJchat has risen above the bar to when things get out of hand? I find that after a few posts as professionals our members usually put prospective back into the thread, cool off, shake hands and they agree to disagree. I hav eno idea what makes DJA any different?

    From my own experience and drawing on the experience of Glenn Miller the creator of the on-line DJ chat boards, without some form of debate be it positive or negative nothing is learned. Keep in mind history shows many of cultures that have closed their doors to outside influences, opinions and ideas to just crash and burn in their own narcissistic egotism.


    I wish you luck in your endeavors.
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    DJchat --

    After months of not even KNOWING there was the DJA site, I ran into it via a link from somewhere about two weeks ago. I read through the boards, and after a while suddenly realized that (gasp!) I was in the Evil Place I'd heard so much about. The castle and grounds of MF himself...

    Well, I managed to control my fear, and hands shaking, kept looking around. Read waaaaay back through the archives, and up to the present on every board that interested me.

    Here's what I found: A well-run, thoroughly professional, upbeat, and constuctive sharing of ideas and opinions. I *also* saw where MF had excised numerous posts and even entire thread segments, for the purpose of keeping the subject under discussion on track. And you know what? Having done my share of teaching over the years, and dealing with people in general, such direction didn't tweak me in the least... I understand very well why such things are sometimes necessary.

    So, I contacted MF, and found him to be a well spoken, intelligent, passionate, and polite guy. Whether I will register to take part in his discussions hasn't been decided yet by either of us, however, for unrelated reasons (privacy issues).

    My conclusion? Rarely in my life have I seen so much ado about nothing, as the feud between this group and that one. Are there stylistic differences? Definitely. Is that a good and necessary thing? Definitely. Is the either "wide open" or "controlled discussion/Socratic method" intrinsically superior to the other? No. Is it worth arguing about for months on end by dozens of people? Or by even two people for five minutes? Absolutely not.

    In fact, the only relevant argument I can think of is the one which asserts that the DJ world is better off having BOTH styles of forum at its disposal. Few feelings are as sweet as using the right tool for a job, and I want as many tools in my toolbox as I can get.

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    Well Sid,

    What EVER! Actually the 6 people that seem to create all the ruckus here are the same 6 guys as there. Hmm any coincidence? No just it is a small group. If anything it only shows how really insignificant web chat boards really are in the bigger picture of the entire industry.

    Maturity level here being higher? PLEASE! here has been home to some of the most harsh, negative, personal battles ever waged online. Give me a break! The same people that have in past only came to DJA to raise contention & argue are the SAME ones that do likewise here.

    Pulled back in line after a FEW posts? Really? I guess that 9 page banter between Todd & a few others a few days back was really just a few posts? Please Sid, atleast be honest about it. You have your share of battle threads as well. We spoke of a few just Tues. night.

    BTW, I checked with the History Department, Mobile Beat NEVER was intended to be free. Don't know where your got your data, But I got it from the publishers. You wouldn't be saying that they lied to me would you?

    There is no narsassistic egotism issue, only that of a few people HERE seeking to make the internet Chat boards more than they really are. Your comments about cultures are unrelated to this issue. This is all about someone having to sign up to read. WOW, boy that just Cries of ego! How dare you ask me to sign up to read & post? What is this world coming to? Appearantly, to some the fate of the free world hangs in the balance...!

    You yourself have told me that the majority of the posts here & elsewhere come from a very few number of people. Out of respect to you I will not even finish it with the rest of the comment that you made. One that I do agree with.

    Also, I highly doubt that your purchasing DJCHAT & all the work you do with DJCHAT is some charity case for the Good of the industry that some would like to make it to be. You do it for the same reason as any online business & all for the money to be made by it.

    Debate essential to learning? Funny I learned a heck of alot yesterday at a Mitchem seminar & we never debated once. No one was insulted, No one was called a cultist, It was quite informative. Everyone learned alot.

    Obviously, this is being made into another red herring for the sake of extended banter. The big issue is all about having to join in order to read. Wooo who! Alert the media! The DJworld is now unsafe!

    I don't even see why anyone would even care? If you don't like the sites rules go elsewhere. Just as those here are told. If you don't like DJCHAT, leave. Isn't that your rules here too Sid? That is the way of internet sites. Most of the tech sites I visit require you to register to read, Big Deal, Are they elitist? NO, merely seeking to have a qualified member base. One site you cannot get into without registration number to the soft tool.

    Out of respect to Sid & to keep this from growing into some sort of ridiculous tennis match. I will no longer post on this thread. Any that wish to discuss it with me can reach me offline.

    I don't wish to be the cause of 9 pages of silly banter & 2000 views!

    Thanks for the good wishes, it will be just fine, as will I. I look forward to talking with you agin privately.
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    Originally posted by Sid Vanderpool
    [B]Could it be the fact that the maturity level at DJchat has risen above the bar to when things get out of hand? I find that after a few posts as professionals our members usually put prospective back into the thread, cool off, shake hands and they agree to disagree.
    I'm sorry but I'm rolling on the floor in hysteric's! I guess when your in the fishbowl it's hard to see what's going on in your house. I too think Glenn's post is a bunch of crap. I don't see any issue with the rules they've placed on the DJA site and now see what prompted Sid's question earlier about making DJChat a member only chat site. If your a DJChat'er, don't worry about what's going on over "there". Sheesh, what a Peyton Place this has become.
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    ADJA speaks up

    Hello Glenn:
    As you know, I too joined USODJA but feel it is unusual that someone who is trying to unite DJs is starting yet another association, when you could be helping the ADJA , NAME or USMEA? Who is actually creating more division?

    As I've told many, if another organization comes along and shows us they are honest, hard-working and create results...great, then we do not have a need for the ADJA anymore.


    The ADJA welcomes all! DJA welcomes all! We all have policies and procedures. ADJA members sign a membership application that states they will not try to harm the association in anyway but if they do, we have the right to expel them.

    The ADJA was asked if we would allow a forum on the DJA site and we said "YES"! NAME was also asked and he said "NO". Mark Ferrell has not showed any preferential treatment but some would have you believe this to be the case.

    Mark Ferrell believes the ADJA is an honest, hard-working group of DJs that are actually working to UNITE the industry and he is now helping us achieve that goal by traveling around the country speaking to 100's of DJs at a time, while promoting local chapters.

    Mark has been able to unite, educate and increase profitability for hundreds (including myself) of disc jockeys. The ADJA believes in promoting positive forces for the industry. Mark Ferrell, Todd Mitchem, Dr. Drax, Peter Merry, Matt Graumann, John Stephenson, Ken Knotts, Wayne Dickson, Kemp Harshman and MANY, MANY others are sacrificing their time (and money) to help the DJ industry.

    I say we applaud the people who have shown RESULTS!! Let's stop listening to the talkers and believe in the "do-ers":

    Todd Mitchem has created better entertainers.

    Mark Ferrell has created higher-paid DJs.

    Ken Knotts has created award winning DJs.

    Peter Merry is educating DJs on new perspectives for selling their services.

    Dr. Drax is helping computer jocks become new millineum DJs.

    ACTIONS not words=RESULTS!!

    No one has ever put John Rozz down for selling his products and books at shows but they'll commend him for his accomplishments. Fair enough! Let's also commend the rest of the hard-working jocks that are changing the industry.

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    Ed,
    Unlike some people that are neck deep in bull**** I can see clearly the direction both of my companies are traveling in. I don't need to have a secret decoder ring to view what is happening around me or to have access to someone that will pat me on the back and give me butt real estate for my lips.

    It's all about confidence in what you do. DJchat and DJzone are the most successful DJ resource. They are successful because I provide the best service available. DJzone has a little over 1/3 of the DJ population subscribed to it's newsletter and that list grows by 200+ a week. Currently through research we have found 90% of the DJs that are online have used DJzone or one of it's sites within the last 6 months. We may not have a ton of people that post on DJchat, but we have plenty of people reading and learning from the threads. They don't have to post for us to know they have been here.

    Turn on CNN some time and see if they run in a sterile and positive only environment. Open a magazine and see if they are 100% positive and non-controversial. Media reflects life and DJchat is a form of media. That is why we have the new moniker, "Real Networking for Real DJs".

    Negative posts will always stand out in the forest of positive ones. The sheer volume of DJchat posts works in much the same way the "message" works. If we have over 2500 new posts a week we are bound to have certain percentage of negative ones in the bunch. Just like if you are in an area that has 30,000 weddings, you are bound to find a percentage of people to pay a higher price. Speaking of percentages, say we have 125 posts that are kind of negative or are negative here at DJchat and on the other site they get say 15. On DJchat this accounts for only 5% of the total posts for that week and on the other site it accounts for over 50% of the posts for that week. In other words if they only get 1% of the negative posts DJchat gets it means the balance is tipped to an unbearable position. Thus their stand on closing the doors to outsiders, the personal screening and profiling to find only those that agree with them.

    Drax, the members here are not afraid to ask questions and have never had their membership held over their heads for having a difference of opinion with me the owner. As for the history lesson, it is very easy for them to forget such things since it would really stink if they admitted it. I spoke with the people that helped them distribute the very first copies and they confirm it was meant to be a free subscription, but who really cares. It's not like the articles in the mag really say anything that they don't want readers to hear or have not been a direct benefit to them or their holdings. I read it for the advertisments to help my clients set their gear prices.

    As for me owning DJzone and DJchat. Do you really think I make that much money doing this? Glenn and I worked it out once. After bills we made about $1.25 and hour. Thus my comments in the past about giving something back to the industry, of which I feel I have in a major way. (As in two years of a free online magazine and creating the largest resources on the planet for DJs).

    We are not worried about what our neighbor is doing. The people in this thread are just pointing out another change forseen by many from the begining of the whole mess 2 years ago. Where is the Mark in all this? Should it not be Mark that speaks on behalf of DJA? He must love it when a firestorm blows through here.

    Like I said I wish them luck in their endeavors.
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    Well Guys looks like I have been so called BANNED yet again from that DJA site and for what now is because they have CLOSED the doors on all OUTSIDERS


    seems to me its yet another so called HITLER style lockout

    because you dont have the oh ha then you are not wanted

    I can get your Quotes as well from what it says but who the hell cares - if they want to be that way - hey no skin of my nose

    I would rather not help them in ways thay wouldnt even dream of





    Well Dr Drax seems that i had only just Registered up at ADJ and now I cant be in it

    Oh well sounds like the usual Crap again ban all the people that that site deems unfit

    oh well as the saying goes what Goes around Comes Around





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    Brief statement.

    DJChat is a OPEN site, I do have my own thoughts, I have posted what I feel, and offered solutions.

    I said what I had to say in my post. I stand by my words, and will not comment on anyone's post but one...

    Peace you talk of unity, and we hoped to work with you, but recent background events, have proved you have a snake in the grass in your group.

    We will finish our site update this weekend, then beware ADJA, for if any more games take place, I will bring my forces together, and even back some which you would prefer were not backed.

    This is all I say....

    Other than there is 50,000 dj's in the US, I plan to work with as many that want to be worked with...

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    I am not sure if this is the right place to post this, but here goes. Feel free to call me on it if you feel this is off track.

    I used to visit DJA. I made a few posts. I don't think I offended anyone, and if I did it wasn't intentional.

    Now I go there and find my membership has been revoked and I have to be approved by the people there. That's fine, I have no problem with that.

    However, I received no e-mail telling me about this. I also e-mailed the administrator maybe a little over 24 hours ago. I have heard nothing back.

    That is disappointing. It was bad enough that the site is now behind closed doors, but now I am thinking that I shouldn't worry about it anyway...... 24 hours should be enough time for someone to send a message back to say "looking into it" or SOMETHING (better than nothing).....

    One more thing.... all of this "talk" about DJA on this site is just free advertising for them.
    Nick in New Zealand
    phone +64-274-438687
    Wedding and Event DJ

    ...because it's worth celebrating.

    I have a blog. Go on - click it!

  20. #20
    You know, I could give a rat's pah tooty about DJA and the "cultish" following that some on this board think they have but you know what really irks me is the holier then thou attitude of some folks that just feel the need to strike up a fight or create controversy for the sake of "hits' on a site. This site has become more and more of a site for bitch sessions then a place for learning. This "my site" is better then your site mentality really detracts from the real goodness that could come from this site. Talk about wishy washy management. There is no concern for what is right or wrong, just what will increase traffic for numbers purposes. What ever happened to this place? If there isn't disagreement and infighting, no one is happy.
    Ed and Dottie Ottman
    All Occasions DJ's
    www.mydjs.com

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